You have just been rejected at a job interview. They chose a boy who was less qualified than you. Find a reason that prompted them to choose him.
Penelope: Because people in the world are sexist.
Sham: Who was probably deciding who got the job in that moment?
Penelope: Probably the same person who was being sexist because if they weren’t sexist they would have chosen me over that dude. This guy doesn’t care if I’m more qualified or not more qualified than that guy – he is going to choose the boy.
Penelope: Some people just think that men are better, stronger, smarter than women. Maybe they are scared of the women, maybe they are scared that the women is going to be really strong so maybe they are thinking the woman is going to be really strong and that she is going to get to a higher level than me and I’m going to be fired.
Sham: Maybe that. Do you think in work men like taking orders from women?
Penelope: I don’t think they like being under a woman’s control.
Sham: Maybe, a lot of men don’t like taking orders from a woman. They’ll say “who are you? I’ve always had this privilege, I tell you what to do.” He’s always been used to giving the orders and all of a sudden one day a woman is making the decisions and maybe he is not comfortable with that or maybe even simpler than that a lot of men feel uncomfortable working around women.
Penelope: Maybe they feel uncomfortable being under a woman’s power, having to be on a lower standard than the woman.
What do you think it means to be a feminist?
Penelope: I think it means standing with women and standing by their sides to help them stand up for women’s rights. You can protest for these things.
Sham: Basically demanding…
Penelope: Freedom for women to have the same rights as men. Whatever gender you are it doesn’t matter. Everyone is different a man could be so good at something that a woman would not know how to do but that woman has to have something that the man is bad at, so we are all different.
Sham: Yeah we all have different capabilities but that doesn’t mean we should have different standards right?
Sham: So I think that being a feminist means we are trying to create equality and have the same standards.
Penelope: Between men and women. Yeah I agree, even though I stole most of your words!